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Mamdani’s 9/11 Files & Parents Gone Wild

Episode 46 · September 10, 2026 · 53 min

XO is back from a break with a voice wrecked by what may or may not be New York air. NYC Mayor Mamdani's "9/11 files" on post-attack air quality come with a pricey new public portal, and XO smells a nothing burger. Then: parents gone wild, from the Lindsay Clancy case to a mom charged for letting her kid walk to town alone.

About this episode

XO is back from a break with a scratchy voice and a new target: New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani's release of the "9/11 files" on air quality after the attacks, and the multimillion-dollar public portal built to show them. XO asks what's actually new in the documents, why it takes millions to put files online, and whether politics has turned into WWE for adults.

Then it's parents gone wild: the Lindsay Clancy case and how people reacted to it, and a Virginia mom who was charged after her son walked through their gated neighborhood alone. XO wonders how the same country can be this strict about a kid's walk and this divided on everything else.

  • Zohran Mamdani
  • 9/11 files
  • NYC air quality
  • Lindsay Clancy
  • Free-range parenting

Key moments

  1. 0:00Mamdani’s 9/11 Files
  2. 5:57Politics as WWE
  3. 11:57A multimillion-dollar portal
  4. 20:20What's actually in the files
  5. 31:45Democratic socialism and spending
  6. 33:08Parents Gone Wild
  7. 34:43Parents gone wild: the Lindsay Clancy case
  8. 40:32A mom charged over her son's walk
  9. 47:53Both sides of the parenting debate

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Read the full transcriptGenerated from the episode's captions, so expect a few typos. Tap a time to jump there in the video.

0:03There has been some sort of an announcement, some sort of release by the ever popular, highly talked about Democratic socialist mayor of New York City, Mayor Mane has released the 9/11 files. And I know what you're thinking. It might be about the terrorist attack. It might be about the towers. might be about one of the planes. You know what are we what are we talking about? What's being uncovered now? Because it's always something, right? There's always somebody in some sort of position of power that's claiming to be altruistic and good intentioned and is for the people and all of that stuff. And they got some files to release. And no, it's not about the actual terrorist attack. It's about what followed the terrorist attack.

0:58And today I am I'm feeling a little bit under the weather. My voice is going in and out. It's doing some some crazy things. And when I see a video like this where bro's talking about the air quality, the government lying to you and stuff like that, and we're going to get into it, but when he's talking about the air quality being up and then my voice is all up and just like wake up with what's the what's the expression with like a frog in your throat? I don't know where that originated from, but it's got me it's got me feeling a little bit some type of way, you know? But let's see what mom Donnie has uncovered. He apparently has made some sort of revelation that will be important not only to the citizens of New York City, but for every American, of course, if you are a patriot, if you love America, this should be important. The government has lied to you. Again,

2:00We reckon with the cost of September 11th, whenever another New Yorker is stolen from us, too soon. Now close to 25 years later, more people have died from 9/11 related illnesses than were killed on the day itself. It would be one thing if government had stood alongside survivors and provided them with everything they needed at every step of the way.

2:20And yet we know that could not be further from what actually happened. People got sick because the leaders they trusted lied and told them they were safe to breathe in toxic air. Okay, I just I'm going to pause it right there because just already the tone that he's he's coming with like he's unveiling something to us. You know, uh how the government was supposed to be there for you? You know how they were supposed to help out where they were needed? They didn't. You know how the truth was something that you feel like this country was founded on? It's not. you feel like people will tell you the truth because you've elected them into office and when you work for the government, you're for the people, you know, by all means, you're representing the people, right? They're not. It's u I don't know. the tone just it strikes me as odd that already he feels like he's he's like uncovering something like hey guys I think after I think after the whole Epstein debacle after the whole COVID thing you know the uh the veil has been lifted I guess for anybody that's even trying to pay attention anybody that is left

3:40Anybody that isn't aware I think it's intentional at this point. So again, I just I don't know who he's he's like uncovering something for, but maybe maybe I'm being critical. Either way, this is important information.

3:57And then when they began to contend with the symptoms of the illnesses that followed,

4:00The government that had not hesitated to send them into harm's way was nowhere to be found. The September 11th victim compensation fund, which provides survivors with the compensation they so deeply deserve, exists today because of those on this stage and beyond, who returned to Washington again and again for nearly a decade, often while struggling deeply with the illnesses they could not afford to have treated, to beg their government to come to their aid as they had come to ours. We are together this morning to stand steadfast alongside survivors and their families and to deliver the kind of accountability around city government's response to September 11th that New Yorkers have been denied for years. I am proud to announce that our administration has settled two lawsuits between the city and 9/11 health watch ending what has been a multi-year legal battle and restrictions on

4:47Okay, I'm going to I'm going to let him finish. I swear I uh I was just waiting. He was like he was he was saying a lot of nothingness. He was saying like you know and everything should be good and if everything was proper it would be great and America is great and the government should be there and we were begging for them to make things great and the day that it is good you know it will be amazing and great. I don't it I guess I just I don't have the personality type to neither be a politician or to consistently hear a politician. Sometimes I just want to I want to get to it. You feel me? I got to I got to weed through all of the all of the uh the rhetoric to like appeal to the masses or something. I don't It's just something It's something kind of phony about it. And I get it. He uh he's kind of like a rock star in any way, right? like the fact that I've even heard of this man.

5:44The fact that he's even being talked about on a on a national level, you know, is it does say something for his abilities as a politician. So, I get it that this is it's one of those talents that it really it does help. It's not like it doesn't get you into office. Think about Obama. Like that man would make speeches and it would basically be about nothing. the same like just pleasant nothingness that means nothing. Like if you actually break down what he's saying, it's like uh-huh. Uh-huh. It like you haven't like get to it. What do you what do you what's the point? But sometimes I think people especially like the average person. No, I'm not talking down I'm not trying to talk down to the average person, of course, but I feel like if you look at the average person, they just they need it. They want it. They want to look up their their mommy and their daddy in the sky.

6:41They got this. And they're smoothings when they want it. And when they're angry, when they need that that populous moment, they they get all angry with them. You know what I mean? Like they they need that character that they can look at. And it's it's okay to them that it's just a character that this is all a facade. It's like it's like political WWE like like legit. and just being okay with it all being fake, it all being staged. It's just I guess again it's just not my personality type, but I'm sorry, Mr. Muna.

7:17New York's ability to access information that can shed valuable insight on air quality and health concerns. What What is the information After administration has ignored those calling for answers and clarity? Yes.

7:28Instead, choosing to bury them in legal arguments and in red tape. We will do no such thing. as we marked.

7:34I feel like he I feel like bro is gaslighting me right now, man. We they're they they have refused any clarity and we're we're going to make sure that they stay transparent and that we will be transparent or whatever the he's talking about. What are you saying? You haven't said anything. And I know I know he gets to a point. I've seen the clips so like I know he's getting to the point. I just look at the people in the background. Look at them. They uh they know this is some They know this is fake. They were the they were the the the background people that were hired. You ever you ever heard about that? Like a movie is is just happening to happen to to look for some background some extras and you're just an average person. You're you're walking. You might be a celebrity. Who knows?

8:30But duck duck goose, you might be goose today. We're picking you. Would you like to be like a background person, an extra? It's like, wow. It's like I know I'm like doing nothing here. This is all make believe. But of course, I would love to do that. I think that's what you have here with these people. It is political WWE. They have to sit here. And I cut a lot of this clip, by the way. I was already trying to get to the main I thought like, you know what I mean? I didn't want to cut through it to make it look like I was just taking out some of the things that he was saying, but Jesus Christ, you just you can't help but to just and that's why everybody's just sitting there with their hands put together. Yes. 911. Always remember. And it's right now as of the day of recording, it is Wednesday 99 of 26. So it is two days away from the 25th anniversary of 911.

9:32May we remember. Okay. Like I I mean I was young. I was very young. This isn't something that I remember fondly, but I know about it. Okay. So I think that's what everybody's doing. They're just showing the respect. It's 911. Remember we're here. We're the we're the background people. Why he needed that? I don't know. why he couldn't just say this is some deep Let me tell you the truth. Here it is. They hid this. Here it is. For years, you thought this. This was the truth. The props needed by this guy. And it's again, maybe it's just it's I don't have the eye for it. Like this is a part of it. This is a part of it. It's showmanship. It's making a spectacle. You have to you have to do things like this. You feel me? Like, why do you think a a a person like Donald Trump can become the president other than being able to play the same game?

10:34Let me just tell you what you want to hear. Let me act like I'm on your side. It doesn't matter if I'm doing evil behind the curtains, which at this point is hard not to feel black. It's hard not to feel like it's all of them, like they really are all doing some sort of evil behind closed doors. That at the end of the day, people will lean towards tyranny. And when it comes down to it, they want to make sure that they succeed. What's in their best interest, but you know, sometimes you just have to look like the hero. Again, I'm not knocking anything, bro. Saying I just I guess I just Can you just be real? Can we just get somebody real? Nobody real, by the way, wants to do these type of jobs. Nobody that would just be like, "Hey, bro. This is some crazy ass shit." So, this whole time, this is what we thought. And now, guess what? This is what the truth is. Don't worry, I got you. Anytime I see some other up like this, I'mma put it out.

11:31No, that that could be the press conference, by the way. Questions? Anybody by yourself? By the way, only thing that's behind you is maybe like a like a like a PowerPoint showing the different files. I I don't know. Again, that's that's kind of too many props. Let's let's keep it simple. Let's keep it minimalist. 25 years, it is time for this painful chapter to end.

11:57It's time. As part of our commitment to a governmental transparency that has too long been absent, city hall has made a more than $34 million commitment to create a new public portal providing information about our city's response to the horrific attack. Hold on. This will be a vast re.

12:12Okay, so I dead ass did not hear this the first time. Like the main thing I was like getting from this, by the way, just to cut through all the is the fact that they were lying and hiding facts about the air quality in New York City after the terrorist attack of 9/11. So other than that, I kind of was just tuning out all of this again. It's just like just my eyes just roll over like I can't help it. It's like and we will we will be here. I can't I don't even That's was like even now like trying to make a show about this I couldn't tell you but only a few words this man is saying it's just sounds like it's just ridiculous. But did he just say we're making a portal so that everybody can have access to all of the information that I he still hasn't really said.

13:08He hasn't said any details. Like I feel like he could he could like just maybe put out a few things like just a couple mic drop moments like, "Hey, guess what? When this happened, like I can't even I can't even give you an example because all they told me is the air quality. It's not what they said it was. This feels like a nothing burger. The more that I am chewing on it, the more that I am taking my bites, the more that this feels like a nothing burger. What are you talking about? 44 million. $44 million. We are going to put 44 million taxpayer money. So you guys are going to pay $44 million so that you can have access to the files that I have access to for free. Like what were you saying? The portal it takes $44 million to make this portal like a website, my M Donnie, bro, I know you said the air is all up.

14:12I think maybe you should do some of your thinking outside of New York City because clearly something is in the atmosphere. If you think it takes $44 million to actually set up a portal for people, I I understand these socialists, they like to put democratic before that, but these socialists, I understand. It's money, money, money. How can we take more money? And then you have to you have to dress the pig. You have to you have to shine the turd and you have to make it seem like I'm doing this for you. I'm stealing your $44 million for you. I want to I just I I would be curious just kind of like a breakdown, you know, like when you get work done at like a mechanic or just just anything. Even if you go to the store, you get a receipt and you get to see every single item like every single line item. I can Can we get that?

15:07Can we can we get some sort of audit on this panel? Mr. Money, can we please? because I just I'm inclined to believe since I have made websites multiple times in my life. Granted, it doesn't have hundreds of thousands of files on it, but I did not have even half of a million. I didn't even have a 44th of a million to put towards these websites. It wasn't needed. You get the domain, you you build it up, you can you can hire somebody even if you said 44,000. What? Oh, okay. Okay. All right. This for the truth.

16:04Who's charging 44,000? Just Okay, that would still be crazy. $44 million, my It's I just don't believe it. I don't I don't believe it. And I know kind of a downer. Every every party has a pooper and I can be the party pooper for you because you started off by saying the government lied to you. Government is not like an entity. It's just people like yourself. I I'm already smelling I already know that the government lies to you. And you're just basically saying they lied. It's them. They lied and I have your back. Even though down to the Epstein files, what did they say? They didn't release it. It's the Democrats. When they just been sitting on this, when did that Jeffrey Epstein first get arrested?

17:02It's like how many? It's one party. Let's be real. Let's be real. It's just one on the things that matter on the things that actually move the needle. It's just one party. So when you say that the government lies and I'm here for you and blah blah blah and don't worry, we're going we have this fund to get a portal that costs $44 million. And maybe I misheard. Maybe it's maybe it's like donated or something like that. Maybe whatever. But even if you just take other tax money and allocate it to this, it's I I just feel like I feel like like think of like think of like a rich person that goes to get something. I don't even know. Like you you go to get a car, right?

17:57And you've done your re your your your research. You know what car you're getting. You know how much it's worth and all of that. And you pull up to the lot. You already have a nice ass car. You're dressed in some rich ass clothing and you have like jewelry and all this Everything about you just screams, "I got some money." When you pull up to this car lot, imagine somebody looking at you saying, "Hey, whole lot of positive nothing's there's a lot of car dealers out there and they just they don't treat you how you should and that's why I'm here for you and for the people and I'll give you the best deals and I'll give you a free grocery stores. I'm sorry I'm going too far. But you're in this car lot and after they look at you, they say, "Hey, this car that you already looked up, it's like $50,000 is what it's worth." They try to say it's going to be 500,000.

18:57That's that's just reasonable, right? That's just you're you're here for me, right? $44 million on a portal. I don't care how many files you have. you already have access to it for free. I think you just look at the entire budget. You look at all of the money that you're collecting as a city or whatever. And you just see that as your piggy bank. This is the rich person that they won't feel it. Look how much money is here. Look how much money you spend. It's going to be like 44 million. You know, it won't really hurt. Who is going to notice? You're going to pay it anyways. The reason why, by the way, New York City, as I take your $44 million and put it towards a portal to show you the information that I already have read for free or have access to for free, whatever.

19:53The reason why your taxes go up or the reason why you feel like you can't afford or you're spending like $20 on a burrito, the reason why is rich people. It's rich people. We got to tax them. We got to get more. We got to take their money. They are taking from you. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe maybe I'm tripping. Maybe a $44 million portal. You know, that's that's normal. Maybe that's normal. It's normal for the government. I'll tell you that much.

20:24Of course. with hundreds of thousands of pages of documents from numerous city agencies, including sought-after records like the Harding memo, the 68 D boxes discovered a few years ago, and information about seven World Trade Center. All right, I have to pause it there again. I I just I did sales. I did doortodoor sales for years. I I hate to say I've I've seen this before, but I've seen this before. This isn't something completely new. He just It's like he said the price. This is what happened. Because I used to sell vacuums, by the way. They're like $3,000 vacuums. Not going to say which brand, but yeah, it was expensive. And some people when they were new, and I I probably did it too when I was new, but some people when they were new, they they just didn't believe in the the price of this vacuum.

21:20$3,000. I mean, I want to pay $3,000 for no vacuum cleaner. Okay, it's a home care system, whatever they want to call it. Again, dress that pig up. They would do this thing because you have to train them. You have to kind of like watch them, you know what I mean? And it's steps. And one of the things that almost every single time with almost every single new person that you'd have to point out, you'd have to make sure you drill into their head is after you say the price, shut the up. Just stop talking. The first person who talks loses. by the way, just to help you out. If you're ever in a sales predicament, just know if they make an offer and they just go quiet, you just go quiet. They're banking on the fact that you're feeling a lot more awkward in that situation than they are cuz they've done that.

22:17And again, when somebody is new, just out of my experience, what they would do is they would say something like, "And the home care system is $3,000." because you know it it has all of these different attachments and because of the shampooer and the and you're able to get the hardwood floors as well and your drapes and think about the the ceiling fans that you can't even reach. What are you going to do? Don't you want to have a clean house? Don't your babies deserve a clean house? This is the perfect thing for you. Look how light it is. And they start listing all these things and it's it's a rookie mistake and it's a mistake I just saw Mr. Mom, Don, just do again. Again. Another rookie mistake. Another rookie mistake. He was supposed to just go quiet. If you're not going to go quiet, at least just continue about your story.

23:17But no, he had to double down on that portal. He might have he might have even realized how crazy that sounded. And you know, we're going to put $44 million towards this portal. And this portal, it has hundreds of thousands of documents and it has it has this and that and this agency and like agency. What are you even talking about? It's a it's a portal. Like I already I already got it. I already I already got it. Like I I get it. A portal. I feel like everybody Okay. And honestly, bro, it's not like you're the first files to come out. Like, oh, it's the 911 files. It's like, what is what is that? It's like, okay. You know what I mean? We got the Epstein files. We got the Twitter files. It's like I I I feel like there was more. Were there COVID files? I feel like there was this this it's at least known. It's at least popularly known that when you put files, you just got some documents that is exposing some that you didn't know before.

24:16This isn't brand new. People know what a portal is. Again, I think that's why he just started listening. This is what it has. It has all of that. And the average person like I mean you know how many people really make websites like that and if you do like I said I mean I've made a website but have I did I sit there and code it even now when I insert code you know what I mean I got AI and like that it's like but there's some people that really put websites together and again even if I did do that did you put hundreds of thousands of files so it's like I feel like it's one of those things where even if you start to doubt it like wait 44 million for a portal just for these files What? How are you accessing it? Did you spend $44 million on the whatever you are looking at these files now with like you know what I mean? Like it it literally doesn't pass the common sense test and just in case it's like oh and it has all of these different things because he knows the average person even if you've made a website my point being even if you made a website you know you haven't done like this there this plausible deniability with this.

25:20It's like, yeah, but you know, we have to have all this. We have to make sure everything is there and the agencies have to have access and they they could just kind of put all these things together to make you be like, okay. So, it's like, yeah, and and by the way, it's only going to go up like another dollar. Just another dollar. It's like, it's another dollar and then we're going to add another dollar. And then that's why, you know what I mean? You have the you have the amount of money spent by our government just continue to increase and increase. It's not like they're deficit spending and they're staying at the same. Like it's getting worse. Like they're going to keep wanting more. And this is this is clear. $44 million and you know you accessing it on something. Why can't we use that? Mr. Manny, sir, m Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor, whatever you're accessing these files on, can we just access it on that and save the $44 million so that we could use it for something more beneficial?

26:15Or we could just save it so that we're not in a deficit. If not now, we can use it later. We don't have to use it just cuz it's here. Sir, Mr. Mayor, do we need to spend $44 million on something that you already have a means of providing? You're already able to see it. I feel like I made my point, right? I feel like I made my point. Let's hear this talk some more, man. These are documents that show what the city knew about the toxic air around ground zero, when they knew it, and how they acted to limit liability.

26:49They contain details about D's response. They show how Asbestous was found nearly everywhere that inspectors tested,

26:56And they will help New Yorkers access the healthcare they need. The 170,000 pages posted today are only the first release. More will be shared over the next 12 months. Every document on this portal will be accessible to every New Yorker free of charge. free of charge, bro. Bro, it's a $44 million portal, my guy. That's not free. That's not free. That's not free. I just I hate to be a stickler because he's he's the guy, right? He is sticking up for the little person. And not little people, but the average person. The average Joe, me, you. Susie down the street. He's standing up for New York City, right?

27:54Come on, man. That's what I I think that's that's literally why. And I cut off some of like a lot of the and like name like I'm just listing names so people can clap and all of the intros and outros. Like that was the most meaty part of the speech by the way. And it was still filled with so much It was It's not free. And I I hate to be a stickler. That's what I was saying. because I know he's he's he's exposing the fact that asbestous and you know cancerous stuff was all around and they knew about it. It's like, yeah, man. Like, you know how many other ways you guys are poisoning us? Again, this isn't this isn't like brand new. And again, I'd rather this be out, by the way. That's the stance of me and this show officially is yes, I support the 911 files being out.

28:53However, I do not support $44 million being spent on a portal just to view the files. Who's going to be viewing the files? By the way, this is for the public. And then the fact that you even added this and everybody will be able to to see this free of charge. Why would you think anybody would assume that they wouldn't have access to this for free? Was was that was that being like floated around out there? Hey, what if we uh what if we charge what if we uh have like some sort of a monthly price, you know, some sort of admission fee, so to speak? You want to see the files? You want to see You want to see the $5. No, no, no. My whole thing is free. My whole thing. Free grocery stores. Free rent. Free. Free. Just free. You have a problem, free.

29:51If there's an issue, think about money issues. Think about like how money can be be used to it to make this worse. Like if you actually go back to what he was saying like and you rewind this which I I I I genuinely can't I can't listen to it again. It's like but he he has like this he has like certain words he uses and I I can't for the life of me remember it but I refuse to go back. But he has this rhetoric where he basically is like insinuating that this is like corrupt somehow because of money and they spent this and they they should have been giving it to you and instead of the money going to you, it should have gone to this. It's like whoa whoa whoa. I get it. That's your that's your thing. That's what you're appealing to. You know how down people are feeling as a whole right now. So you're appealing to that. That's why socialists are even gaining steam.

30:49But Jesus Christ, why would you even Why would you even say that if not out of recognition that you are overcharging for this portal? It just feels like again, I'm happy that it's out. Let's not pretend like this is like some groundbreaking thing that I mean it is good for the families that they may they they didn't know for real like for sure that I swear like this is because after that after that terrorist attack there was asbestous and blah blah whatever the it is like I'm sure this will give closure to plenty of people which is why I said I'm glad this is out I'm glad that they are at least putting this out there but to put a charge on I just like I said, it's hard not to be blackpilled. And this isn't me like anti-democratic socialists or which I am actually.

31:45I am anti-democ anti-democratic socialists which are just socialists which are really just something that leads to communism literally written in plenty of literature that this it's like the transition period. By the way, this isn't me anti- a certain political group. I think it's it's all of them. Again, it's it's it sucks to feel black and to be somewhat cynical about all of this, but it's like, you know, what does like every cynical person say? Look, I'm just real. I'm just saying how it is, bro. Like, that's that's kind of how it feels. And honestly, things have not been feeling real recently. Like just looking looking out like I took I took a couple months where I didn't do any podcast episodes. Just I just just wanted a little a little break, a little recharge time.

32:44And of course, you know, I come back with my throat all up from that New York air. You know what I'm saying? The air quality. But things just they they seem to be I don't want to say going in a downward like direction, but it feels like it's definitely not going up. You know, like we're going all types of ways. And the amount of parents that have had me baffled within these past couple weeks is uh I just I I don't have words. And of course, yes, I'm talking about the Lindsay Clansancy case. I didn't prepare any videos just because I have watched so many videos of that I um I don't want to I don't want to. it. I'm not gonna How about that? I'm not gonna But Jesus Christ.

33:41And it's sad, tragedy, all of that stuff. But Jesus Christ, the reaction, the reaction from people, there's no way. There's no way there's that many parents out there that have gone insane that are insane. I guess talking about same. Me, too. I just I I genuinely was just like, "Bro, I'm not doing a video about this. I'm not going to do a video about this. Lindsay Clancy. Like to be on my opinion, by the way, she killed her kids. Not up for debate. It's not one of those things where it's like, "Did she do it? Did she not do it? Was it the husband?" All of y'all are Just like with the capital R, Like, she said she did it. The defense is saying that she did it. And it of course went to mistrial because of one hold out juror that was like, "Hey, I don't think she should be let go.

34:43I think maybe she was guilty." As she took three of her children, took some exercise bands and spent minutes on each child taking the last bit of air from their bodies. I uh I I I think that that was a hero. talking about the one juror that was saying, "Fuck all of y'all." Was it like 12 of them? 11 other people. Apparently, these jurors were going to to the trial in pink shirts and wearing pink and solidarity or whatever the is is what all of these people protesting that Lindsay should be free or same or this shouldn't whatever whatever the they were talking about. Like I saw some crazy some crazy people talking about. That's why it's like I I didn't even want to compile the video.

35:39So many people have already done it. You know how the internet works. The internet people will go crazy and like put these super cuts together and you can literally just see like a mashup of all of these like whoa. And you guys are sit sitting here protesting or like there showing your support for somebody who killed her children wearing pink and a shirt that's saying that you support her and me too. We've all been there or whatever the with your child there in attendance. I uh What does that conversation sound like by the way? Like, I we're we're going to go to the We're going to go to the park today. We're going to go to the park. We're We got the slide. Well, no. No. There's no slide. There's no monkey bars and swing set or anything. So, it's not the park. No, it's it's it's not the park. It's actually It's just going to be like some grass and like a street.

36:35And there's going to be other people. There's going to be plenty of people, plenty of children, by the way. There's going to be plenty of other kids. And they're going to be looking at you probably with a little bit of fear in their eyes. Why is that? Well, we're going to be standing for Lindsay because same. Oh, I um I I feel the same as her. What do you mean, Mom? Well, she she murdered three of her children because sometimes mommies, they get stressed. They they have a lot going on. You know how that goes. Uh-huh. And and yeah, she just she snapped. She she took some just some rubber bands and she sent her her babies to heaven. I want to go to the park. It's It's not the park.

37:31Okay. We're not going to the park. We're We're here to stand. What is that conversation like? What h how do you how do you how do you say we just We're just We're just here. You probably you don't say anything. It's like, oh, we're just doing grown-up stuff. What does your sign say? You know, say some stuff. It just says I like I support people with love. Like I I I if I was in jail, if I was in a cage, would you want mommy out? Well, me too. Same. So that's that's there's another lady who is in a cage, and I just don't think she should be there. She doesn't deserve to be there. It's a It's a sad story. She can't walk. She can't not walk, by the way, because she flung herself. She flew that day and she landed in her backyard because she um she heard this voice. And I feel like maybe it's just me.

38:29I'm in my own bubble and I feel like it's pointless to explain the whole Lindsay Clancy story cuz you got to know it, right? But she has these voices. this voice, I'm sorry, a man's voice that said that she needed to kill her children and herself. She sent her husband out, planned it all, made sure she had time. After she did that, of course, she had to finish out what the voice said. She made superficial cuts, didn't do any actual damage as she tried to cut herself. again took minutes for each child because she used a an exercise band to take the last bit of remaining air from their bodies. Each each took them down to I I don't remember the room where one by one I I wonder I I honestly didn't look into it who who went first.

39:29It was like a 5-year-old. I think it was like a two or three year old and like a eight-month-old around there. How does that work? Just sitting there with with fear. But same same the reaction again this was something honestly I just I was so baffled by it. I didn't want to talk about it because like I have been I knew I would get kind of like just lost for words and I didn't want to just like sit on the camera and be like and you know what I'm saying like get all caught up just because this is like it's l this this is like a plot in a movie right before the society collapses right before the culture implodes. And even though I didn't plan on covering the whole Lindsay Clancy thing, I'm really not too much. The reason why it does come up is because another story about a parent convicted of endangering their child then child is alive.

40:32It it came across my uh my news feed. this this lady in Virginia, I think she ended up getting arrested for like child endangerment or some and she got charged. This was um nowhere near as insane as violent as what happened in Massachusetts with Miss Lindsay Clancy. This lady has all children. All children have no injuries. All children are properly fed, have beds, have friends and family and all of that good stuff and smiles and unicorns and rainbows and all of that good This lady got arrested. This lady got convicted.

41:29Let's see what she did because it's it was such a mystery with Lindsay. Like it it was such a how do we get here where we're trying to lock up a child killer like times three. How do we get here? But this this was a open andsh shut case. This was nothing. This was like an easy oh this is what this is what you did. I don't care if you have healthy, happy kids that love their family and their home. You did this.

42:00Now for story sparking a parenting debate all across the country. Kianne Parkinson was arrested earlier this summer after she let her 5-year-old son walk to a neighborhood pond by himself. She was later convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. She says she was teaching her child independence. Markman has more.

42:12She uh she got arrested for letting her kid walk to the park. And I guess I put this clip like double speed or some I don't know how that happened. But to slow it down for you, this lady let her child walk to the park in her neighborhood and she gets arrested for it. The child was okay. The child didn't like run away or anything like that.

42:46Samuel is a 5-year-old who collects goose feathers. To find more, this summer, his mother let him walk a half mile by himself to a neighborhood pond.

42:51I gave him permission to go. I told him go there. Right back.

42:52Their Virginia gated community has sidewalks and paid security guards. One of them stopped Samuel and escorted him home. The start of Carne and Parkinson's parental gut punch. Half a mile is tough. I ain't gonna count. I ain't gonna lie about that one, man. That's That's five five years old. Do I Would I do this? I actually have a six-year-old daughter. Would I do this with my six-year-old? Hell no. You want to walk how long? But I also do not live in a gated community with armed security officers there to help its citizens and pedestrians or whatever the like, "Oh, okay. You have a pond. This likes to collect goose feathers." All I'm saying is it's like, you know what I mean? You you have you have a happy life if you have enough free time on your hands where you're collecting goose feathers, you know? So, this was something clearly the boy liked to do. Clearly, the boy was in the opposite of the hood, you feel me?

43:55Like he's not going to potentially get shot by a stray bullet or some like that. Like bro is in a gated community with patrolling security officers there to make sure everybody is good. It's probably got a pool and a playground. This is just me speculating clearly, but uh would I do it half a mile? Probably not. Do I think anybody should tell this parent what they should do with their kid? As long as it's obviously not some Lindsy Clancy you know that crazy As long as it's not something like that. Should anybody get to tell a parent what they can or can't allow their child to do? Because my child at five isn't her child at five. You feel me? It's not like, oh well, you're you're 5 years old, so you know what I mean? Like these these certain things have to happen.

44:52Yeah, there's some things where it's like if you look at everybody on average, you know what I mean? You start losing some teeth and this and that, whatever. Cool. But to automatically assume that this kid isn't able to independently walk to a pond that he already knows, that he's already been to before. So much so that he has a fascination with collecting goose geese feathers plural. I think maybe let the kid walk. So let's let's see what happens. Let's see what happens.

45:27Said, "We don't permit children to be out in the neighborhood alone." And I said, "Is that an NH by law?" because I really think that's against the rules and he said, "Well, it's not against the rules and it's against the law and I'm going to call the police."

45:33They came. Child protective services came. This former family life educator was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. We just

45:39Contributing to the delinquency of a minor. He's going to be a delinquent. All I'm saying, ma'am, ma'am, you letting your boy just just run free. It might not be against the HOA guidelines, but it's sure as hell against the law. And I'm calling the police. Okay, ma'am. This child will be a delinquent. It will be a delinquent. A hoodlm. Is that what you want? Riff raff trash. You know what that is? Do you know what that is? You have contributed to that. Walking all independent. You know we can't have independent people. He's going to grow up. think he can become anything he wants to become, do anything he wants to do as long as it falls in the, you know, the lines of the law, which as you can see is just other people trying to tell other people how they should live their life.

46:42Now, do I think it would be different if the kid was in the street? It caused some sort of accident or the kid got hurt or some something happened out of a consequence of him being on his own and then it comes back to it where it's just like, oh, you didn't have you didn't even have an adult with you. They let you go a half a mile away where they can't even see you. You know what I mean? And it's like so I could I'm trying to play both sides. I just have so much inside of me that says anybody that's trying to take the rights away from parents. But that if you haven't noticed, if you have not noticed is what they have slowly but surely done. Think about school. Think about after the regular primary school and like that. You go on to college. That's why it's just like there are people trying to manipulate the current future generations every single day purposefully with a mission and they might even think it's a good one.

47:53You know, I just have to teach this whether it's about like and you could look at both sides. It's not a left right thing. let's say the the far left sitting here pushing down like I don't know like trans ideology or talking about are you heterero or gay or like just talking about sexuality period with with children and then you got the the far right where it's like well it has to be God and you oh you don't believe in God you're going to hell and then if you if you think abortion is okay well then you're a murderer of babies and I don't know like you got all of these things where it's like people are going to try to manipulate the future generations Why? While they are the most mi manipulatable, it's it's the time where they are most susceptible to other people's opinions where they can literally shape how people think. That's that's it's been happening. It's not like it's one of those, oh, this is a conspiracy theory.

48:52That's some sort of a lunatic, a nut job. It's like, yeah, like the average person, you tell them that, it's like, yeah, like actually, you're right. That's why it's like when once you start making money, like most people say, get out of public school, you're going to a private school that I approve of to make sure that you're you're actually being taught like what I want you to be taught. Anytime somebody tries to take the rights away from a parent, it just man, you better have a good ass reason. And then you have a good ass reason like the Lindsay Clancy trial and the juror's like, "Um, I don't know. I don't know. What do you mean? What do you mean she's guilty?" And it's like there's I just saw a video earlier today and I didn't pull it again. I was like, "Bro, that I'm not pulling any videos cuz I wasn't even going to talk about it." But I just saw a video earlier. I just couldn't help but watch that You know what I mean?

49:48I want to know. I want to know. And it was like a juror. It was basically just talking about the one juror that was holding it out. It's like, oh, it was just being so difficult. It's like just talking It's like, oh man, it's like, and this was all just because I was sitting here because uh he just couldn't get over the fact that she that she uh murdered her children. She dead ass said some like that. I think she even said ferociously murdered her children. Said something like that. It's like all because he just couldn't get over it. It's like, do you do you hear yourself? Yeah. Yeah. He He couldn't. He couldn't. It It was It was murder. And then another one. And then a third murder. And I I think I saw a comment where it said something like, "If these were three puppies that were strangled, she would already have been convicted. It would have never even came to this, which is weird, right?"

50:47And it's like I'm not trying to I I sit I'm very nuanced when it comes to the whole abortion thing. You're like abortion, what the you talking about abortion? But it actually does have something to do with this. I saw or I've heard a lot of people making like ties saying that this is of course what's going to happen. Of course, now that somebody has murdered their own children, we're going to like act like they're some sort of hero and they've, you know, overcome something that we're all stricken with. And, you know, every mother knows exactly what Lindsay has gone through. It's it's gross. But some people are saying that of course this happened. We are also in a country with some states that celebrate and completely condone abortion. And that's murdering babies. And again, I I'm not all the way in that camp.

51:44Not all the way in the other camp either. But it it seems like they're starting to to make some points with that I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. See me, I'm open to other ideas. I've been wrong so many times in my life. I know there's so many things I'm wrong about now. So, I'm open to new information. Okay? So, one, the people that are against abortion from what I have heard, these aren't just like I don't want any women to have any rights. These are people that like genuinely like you're murdering babies. Like, imagine if like how people are getting upset that Lindsay Clancy murdered her babies. It's the same exact thing. But the people that are fighting against abortion, they think that's what this is.

52:41And in Massachusetts, where Lindsay Clancy just got off, they are literally able to abort a baby up until the day before their birth. That's wild. So, when I see a parent that gets arrested for letting their kid go on a walk, but we're letting this happen, I feel like we're just we're missing the plot.

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