The vaccine debate isn't as simple as it seems

0:00One of the most controversial things that somebody could question where they almost immediately get looked at as crazy for even bringing it up is questioning the safety and efficacy of vaccines. You don't want to be vaccine hesitant. This whiplash that you get for even questioning a vaccine was made apparent to a lot of people during uh the pandemic of uh you know covid 19. That was when a lot of people started to wake up to the fact that wait a minute why do I immediately get villainized for asking questions? I'm not saying anything too wild here, I feel like, but for some reason, people are looking at me like I am a murderous virus myself, and I essentially want to make sure grandma doesn't make it to see tomorrow.

1:02Um, this is this is weird. This is starting to feel like people are brainwashed. Like I said, this is this is also when when people started to wake up. And I say wake up like it's some big spell that we're all put under. And in a way, I guess it does kind of feel that way, but it's not like you wake up and you're all knowing. It's just asking questions. and asking questions, you know, it obviously means that you don't have all the answers. You are not all knowing. And there's nothing wrong with having conversations, asking questions, pushing back, making sure, double-checking, triple-checking after somebody has already double checked. You know, you want to you want to check all of the boxes when it comes to certain things.

2:03And if somebody else thinks it's foolish to question something because all of the experts have already made sure everything is 100% safe and on board. Well, that's okay. You don't have to agree. It gets very odd though when you push back on all of it. This episode of Get Xuded was inspired by a clip where uh a guy named Gavin Debecker, I think is how you pronounce it, came on the Joe Rogan podcast and he was talking about the safety of vaccines. the uh the amount of ingredients that I was hearing him list. It was crazy. As somebody with children, it had me highly concerned, you know.

3:01Um one of one of my kids is actually due for their checkup here in a couple months. So, it's just like, are they getting, you know what I mean? It makes me weary. It makes me hesitate. And that's that's the danger, right? You don't want to create vaccine hesitancy. I uh I think I think it was G.I. Joe that said something like knowledge is power. I don't think there's anything wrong with people questioning something. questioning what is getting injected and to is objectively one of the most precious thing that somebody brings into this world life like you're a child. So obviously highly concerned as a parent, but it also had me start to think about what I was injected with.

4:04Like wait a minute, what's inside of me? What got put in me for god knows what reason other than somebody made money off of that How many things was given to me that I didn't even need to take, if any? If any. And obviously, full disclosure, I'm not a doctor. Um, I feel like there's not many doctors with fake tattoos. Anyways, just in case you were confused, though, I'm not a doctor. Um, I'm just I'm just a guy, man. I'm just a a person on this planet that is uh that is humaning just like you.

5:01And I got questions sometimes. And it sucks when you go looking for answers and immediately you can get villainized. Immediately if you're not a part of the group, the tribe think you get ostracized. It's it's kind of comedic though. It's kind of insane how predictable it really is. But we're gonna we're gonna watch this clip of uh Gavin Debeeka on Rogan and he's going to break down some of the things um that I was talking about as far as the different ingredients and obviously go into a lot more detail before he says whatever he's about to say. What? What?

5:58I will admit though, I don't know what the Mercury is. If somebody says, "Hey, what is what is Mercury?" Besides obviously like a planet or whatever, I would say, and I'm I'm not 100% positive on this, so fact check me, I guess. Uh, isn't it the that is in like like a thermostat or whatever? like them old school with the with the line and the red like the little red part at the end. Isn't there like mercury or something in there? You're not supposed to if one breaks, you're not supposed to touch it. Like it can give you mercury poisoning or some I feel like I feel like there's some sort of memory that I that I just unlocked there with mercury. Maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong, but that's if somebody asked me if somebody like you know stopped me while I'm walking down the street say hey what is what is Mercury besides the planet be like that's what I would have said.

6:58So okay don't touch it. I guess the other other thing when I think about mercury is uh can't you have like excessive mercury in your like u in your blood or whatever if you eat too much fish or some like that like you don't want to eat too much like canned fish maybe that's something different but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure there's something there as well either way it's crazy how it's something apparently according to Gavin that you're not supposed to inhale, you're not supposed to touch, but it does get injected into you. And he said specifically with childhood vaccines. So obviously, you know, you get a lot more vaccines and when you're first coming up. I don't know.

7:53I wonder if if mercury's in any of the vaccines that like like the uh I don't know any any of them, but like the COVID vaccine. I wonder if there was murker in there. Oh, that was that was a little that was a little weird right there, bro. That was suspect right there, man. I don't know. He uh he started with the claim that the death rate for vaccinated kids against the measles is the same as unvaccinated. Meaning basically whether or not you got the vaccine, even if you got the measles, you're not going to die. So, you get injected with this with a laundry list of shitty ingredients with a whole bunch of different side effects and you were just going to get something that wouldn't have killed you anyways.

8:54Like it. So, he started off saying that whether or not you get a vaccine for the measles, the death rate was zero. And that's what he was he would have stuck with if Jordan immediately pushed back be like, "But people have died from the measles, right?" And he he just kind of like brushed it off. Oh yeah, but that was that was back in the 80s is you know is when it started to decline. Um and then you know Rogan says why? And I don't know just the way he answered it just like oh indoor plumbing or something like that. I don't know. I again, there's nothing wrong with questioning right? Don't just blindly go with ah see he's he's uncovering all of these different conspiracies and listen to the ingredients and blas blas when I I try really hard when I listen to somebody like understand that they are going through the world and seeing things the way that they see things and because we are all susceptible to making mistakes fakes, having our own um bias,

10:14And basically unknowingly putting out propaganda based off of our frame of reference because I know that about us as people, it makes me question everybody, even when they are giving me that good old ear candy that I want to hear because I already have a feeling of distrust. I already feel like I don't know everything and it's making me feel a sense of unease and unrest. And of course, when you start telling me like, oh, like it's going to it's going to sound good. And I'm not saying that this was, you know, this could have just been me reading too much into this. This could have been nothing. And even if it was a careless mistake or overexaggeration, it wasn't coming from anywhere of like ill intent or like any malice or anything like that.

11:10I got it. It's just real easy to just go along with the narrative. That's kind of what we're talking about in the first place. Right. Right. You're what are you a science denier? You You're hesitating the vaccine. you're questioning any vaccine. You're not giving your child a vaccine, whatever. Like all of these different judgments that people will put on other people when they haven't even thought through everything themselves. They're kind of just blindly going with it. It's really easy to look at other people and just say, "Ah, yeah, see you're just blindly going through stuff." Literally say the same that you turn around and go do. Like, ah, see, you guys are stupid. You're listening to them. I don't even You got to You got to distrust everybody over there, man. the government.

12:07And then you just look over and blindly follow somebody else. You're just replacing, you know, the the daddy you look up to, the the parental figure that that you need to see to help you get through life, to help you navigate and see what's right and what's wrong. Again, not nothing against Mr. Gavin Debec. Uh I'm just saying um that it felt weird, right? Is it Is it just me? It felt a little bit weird, but Okay. Okay. Um All right. So, kind of kind of like what I said. So Jamie Jamie pulled up somebody who had died and bro quickly backpedalled and said, "Yeah, well that was before I was talking about." So people still somebody died based off of that article from measles.

13:08And what they're saying is, okay, he could have died. You know, if you have the flu and then you get in a car accident and go through the windshield and and die on impact and they end up doing an autopsy and seeing that you had the flu or some You know, it would be very weird for them to be like, "Oh my gosh, he died from the flu." You know what I'm saying? So, that's basically what they're saying. Like, okay, did did they die from measles or did they die with measles? Cuz those are two different things. And yeah, like I said, that was just it was a little bit suspect. So now it's kind of got me it makes me even more like I'm still I hear what this guy is saying, but it does make me kind of like side eye. I'm a little bit more look at everything through like a like a fine tooth comb type of thing just because you're already kind of tripping up on what you said.

14:04Remember he first started saying that nobody has ever ever died. The the death rate is zero. And I I get it. You have to you have to say things quick because somebody's somebody's eyes just kind of just roll to the back of their head and they stop listening and by the time you've made your point, they're not they're not even paying attention. I understand. I understand. you kind of have to say things as uh grab you by your collar as you can. But yeah, starting off saying that the death rate is zero and then ending up with somebody dying last year in 2024 from measles, you know, allegedly and then immediately going to Yeah. Well, that was before what I was talking about and then that was in the 20 years. And um you know, who even knows if they died from that?

15:03Could have been from malpractice. You know, you don't know who their doctor was. They could have just been negligent. And at the end of the day, they probably or not probably rather um they could have just died with measles and not died from measles. And then he said, "I'm just going to step away from this." and said, "But even if it was," and that's where he kind of makes a good point. Even if they did die from the meals, that means in decades and more than two decades, only a couple people have died. Okay, I guess you're right. Those are very good odds. and say he's going on to tetanus saying one out of 150 million very good odds. I guess what I want to hear more of is what are the side effects that makes these already very good odds not even worth taking the chance of now I'm going to inject myself in something where it actually you know uh instead of I'm trying to come up with a good analogy for it.

16:14I want to go one step forward and defend myself from virus A. Okay, I take said vaccine that there was already a one in 150 million chance of me even getting virus A. Now I'm that much further, just one step. But because of all the side effects and the things that I'm injecting into myself alongside to get that one step forward, I've taken like eight, nine steps back. That's kind of the argument that I'm looking for here. Um, not just saying, well, there's barely even a chance and you know, there's there's bad stuff in the vaccines. Um, I don't know. I guess I want specifics, so maybe I just shut the hell up. Bro, what? I got a tetanus shot. I got a tetanus shot when I was like, I don't know, like maybe like 19 or 20. I was working this I don't even remember what the place was called.

17:15I was like an electrician's apprentice or some like that. It was a horrible job. I hated it. It was awful. But while I was there, I ended up uh I ended up it was it was some where I went out there and there was just like rusty rusty nails everywhere like that. And I just ended up uh casually bringing it up to my mom, right? And she heard that like, "What? You're working around rusty nails?" And I was just like, "Yeah, there I mean there there was I I don't even remember. I think it was like how they were just like throwing everywhere. So, you know, obviously there was rusty nails out on the lot." And either way, she said, "You need to go get a tetanus shot. Make sure which is, you know, the exact opposite of what they're saying, like, hey, by the time you actually get punctured by it, then you could actually, if you get the tetanus or get tetanus, whatever, then you could actually go and get the shot and be cool. You don't have to get it before um to prevent it or whatever.

18:11So, I went and got this and all to find out, you don't even get it from rusty nails. You don't get it from getting punctured. That's That's crazy. That's crazy as Like this whole this whole time I I genuinely thought that. I genuinely thought that a rusty nail like literally like anything with rust. I I might have even told my kids that Like this is what I was told. Like I don't know like I don't know about you but this is exactly what I was told when I was a kid. Obviously my mom told me to go. I'll pay for it. Like I you need to go. Okay. It was like one of those. All right mom. She's just worried. She wants me to you know I'll watch out. I didn't think I was going to get punctured which I didn't. But she was just trying to better be safe than sorry. You're telling me the rusty the rusty nails?

19:06Just I I I don't that threw me actually say why why or why not like why it wasn't found in America or put out in America like um yeah cuz he said because the the patent ran out or whatever and then all I ended up saying was that there was the the 9,000 cases or whatever. Okay. Well, because I I guess Okay. The reason why I'm I'm wondering why is one, is there anything in it that it just doesn't pass our regulations, which like we have so many things, right? But if there could be, it's the more the marrier, right? if there could be one more vaccine based on the entire argument is like this is a money machine, this is, you know, they continue to get paid, they don't have to worry about um, you know, getting sued or anything like that because of all of these arguments, wouldn't that suggest that they would want to give this extra vaccine that would help prevent the 9,000 cases of

20:28Tuberculosis? If anything, that could be the thing that they point to. If like, you know what I mean? I'm I'm thinking about it from this argument where it's just like, okay, somebody that they just want a money machine. They're not necessarily uh putting their hands together super evil, like some evil genius. They just they're greedy. They just want money. Why would they not include this one? Is there is there some sort of guard rail that goes against it? Clearly, you're saying that there's so many bad things inside of our vaccines already. So, is there something worse in there? And if there is something worse, why in the world would you endorse it? Again, I just got questions because I don't know anything about this because I don't know anything about the character of Gavin Debecker. um to to know if what he's saying is kind of just the headline level grab you by the collar version. Kind of like what we were talking about earlier. Control and domination. That's the goal of all power systems.

21:38The right? They don't That sounded like uh what's his name? Jigsaw from Saw in the end. Um, I just I really hate blanket statements. And I know it sounds like I'm giving I'm giving this Gavin Debeca a hard time. Like I'm pushing back on everything. Um, to be honest, I'm I'm really trying to be my own like steel man, like the the devil's advocate version of this argument because again, I know a lot of this is ear candy because I personally do have distrust. I I didn't like I didn't get the the COVID vaccine. Like just like I'm good.

22:35I don't get the flu shot, but I also don't get the flu. So, like as soon as I stopped taking the flu shot, um I stopped getting the flu. And uh yeah, never took it since. But yeah, man. I um I'm pushing back on everything that he's saying. I'm trying to look at everything from the other side because I know I can easily just fall in line. Like I said, just be like, "Oh, yeah, that makes sense." Well, then of course this must be real, too. Like, just everything you say, just let me like just tell me what I want to hear. And I got to be really careful when I'm hearing stuff that I want to hear because I want it to be real. I don't want to just blindly go through something. Nobody wants nobody likes the feeling of feeling like they got uh they got played, you know, like someone got one over on them.

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24:33Giving chances are cross me. I swear when I hear him say that the pediatricians as in like all pediatricians immediately it's just like okay that's a blanket statement that I'm sure is just incorrect just because like it's a very high likelihood that it's not 100% true just because you did a a blanket statement that covered everybody. So automatically that means you would have had to have talked to every single pediatrician to come to that conclusion or that there was some sort of document or you know um something that every single pediatrician was was able to come together and and say, "Yep, this is our consensus. This is how we feel." Not a single one. Um obviously that's probably not what he's saying.

25:31There's probably like some board or something I'm not aware of. But I got to think through this too, just because like I said, when my kids are going to these checkups, I can't automatically think you're against me. You're against my child. That type of dynamic is not going to be something that leads to any good outcome for me and more importantly my kids. And that's why the whole the whole us versus them with the medical industry. It's really it's really murky waters to go through because it's not everybody. It's bad actors for sure. It's money people that aren't even necessarily practicing medicine themselves, but they're just maybe owners or something like that.

26:33I'm not of of course like people that are completely um completely um fueled by the money that they're getting, the profits that they're they're getting off of off of every single vaccine that's given, every single surgery, every single appointment that's set. If you're not actually looking at the people that you're helping, and even if you are, if you're one of the ones that have just become numb to it to the point, not in a good way, where you have to be a certain amount of numb to be good at your job and not to be so wrapped up in the moment and not be able to logically think and be too captivated by your emotions. But no, the type of numb where you you just have a callous over your heart and you genuinely don't give a damn about what happens. Um if something happens to a patient, the only reason why you'd be upset or think about it like ah is because it hurts your pockets financially or it makes you look bad as far as your reputation.

27:40So you might get less clientele. You'll be that now. Oh, that's the doctor. You know, he he has that one death on his hands. Uh, you know, he he doesn't have that perfect record that they they may have aspired to. Like, oh, she she let that person um die the last time that she was in the operating room. Like, maybe they're not as good as we thought they were. Maybe that's the only time this numbed doctor thinks about the times they mess up. The surgeries that they give but don't actually need to cuz the person could have lived without it, but they get paid a little bit more. The medication that they'd be fine without, but they prescribe it anyways because they get paid a little bit more. The vaccine that they give to your child, but they know they don't really need it. It's all right because they get paid a little bit more. I don't It's real easy to just look at the boogeyman at all of this and just look around and feel like, okay, everybody must be bad.

28:50And I don't know 100%, but if I treat everybody like they're bad, I can't get over by them. Or at least it won't be as easy. But there are people that practice medicine because they genuinely want to help. Obviously, there are good people out there. I genuinely believe that. There's good people out there. There's there's plumbers and out there that just like they they feel a sense of fulfillment and joy by fixing the plumbing of different people's houses. they feel uh like they earn their own selfrespect based off of their skills to be able to to to fix that plumbing issue. You know what I'm saying? So, it's like I feel like no matter what industry you go in, there are going to be good people that do good do a good job or as best a job as they know how for good causes and reasons.

29:50You know what I'm saying? like you just got to hope that you don't have one of the bad actors. And I feel like a common not a common um a red flag, a telltale sign that you don't have one of these good actors, whether it's a pediatrician or your own personal doctor, is when you go to ask questions and they act like they can't be bothered. They act like, you know what I mean? What what you're asking. It's like what what you you went on Google and you started trying to like look some up. What are you What are you doing? You're wasting my time. You know how much I'm worth. You know how much I get paid. You know how long I went to school. I'm the expert. You know, if they start they start hitting you with that type of vibe cuz it might not even be outwardly, but if you can just sense it, you know, chances are you don't have the doctor for you.

30:46I put protein from worm ovaries. I didn't know that worms had ovaries. That's a fun fact right there for you, man. Worms have ovaries. Protein from worm over. That's See, that's what I'm saying. Like they're saying like all of this sounds disgusting. Blood from what he say blood from chicken embryos or some like that or fetuses. I that is crazy. Cow fetuses. That's what he said. Blood from a cow fetus and human fetuses. First of all, where are they are these like are these like miscarriages? Like where are they where are they getting they're where are they getting this like source material from? That's crazy. Like are you do you keep it on ice? Do you keep it warm? Like that's that's crazy. Um, and then I'm thinking about how when you get like a blood transfusion or you go to donate blood, you know, you have to make sure what blood type you have.

31:58You can't just um I forget which one it is. It's like O negative or one of them where you can donate to everybody. Um, but you have to you have to match your blood type up to what works. what happens when you just take, you know, blood from a fetus that is a different blood type. And I guess I'm guessing that it's such a low amount that it doesn't actually harm you. God, man, I'm trying to be like devil's advocate. That is weird. It's weird. It's like does it there's got to be something like you know what I mean like like he's he say he's not a doctor he's not a scientist like I wish that is where you would want somebody that says ah I know I know it sounds crazy I know it sounds wild but actually when you get the blood from a fetus or whatever and the protein from a chicken embryo know it synthesizes the vaccine in a way where you know what I mean they start popping out all these different words I don't even know how to um articulate myself

33:19Right now because I'm just a everyday person probably like you where it's you know the majority of people it it goes over our head so when you hear of stuff like that you know when you hear what actually keeps the sausage together. Like what's the lining of sausage? Do you know? I'm not going to say it right now, but you can look it up if you want to. And it's it's not nice to hear. It's not great. I mean, I I personally don't eat sausage. It's not I don't like the taste. But damn, I've eaten it before. I didn't realize. So, yeah. Yeah. I just wish I wish I wish that I had a more indepth explanation about Yes.

34:20This is in there and this is its function. This is the reason why. Like, I think just an ingredients list isn't enough. You got to actually like say the purpose of each one. And if it goes over over my head, cool. That's fine. That's okay. At least I have some sort of reasoning there that I could put into chat GBT or some and say, "Hey, simplify this for me." You know, vaccines for dummies. Give that to me. Like, I need to understand, give me some sort of metaphor that will help me understand the purpose of this specific ingredient. You know, something something along those lines. And it's hard to just like put in all of the different ingredients into something like that just because you're just you're again you're just going based off of what Chat GBT says or whatever the because it does go over your head. And this is how so many things in the in the world feels like like you know you know like if you end up having car trouble or something in the house up or something where you don't have an expertise in it like me.

35:29I personally I don't know really about cars. I could change the oil, change some tires. I can you know I I could do I think that's about it. I can change the oil. I can change tires. Yeah. I mean, everything else is like, "No, obviously I could drive that but no, I can't like change anything. I don't know how to like change the spark plugs or whatever the fuck." Like, I know the names of some things, but uh if I were on a job interview to be a mechanic, they would laugh me out of the store. I don't know about how to fix a car. You know what I mean? So when something happens to the car, you got to be like, "Oh, expert. Can you tell me what's wrong? Oh, yeah. You got to change this. You got to do that. You got to make sure you fix that.

36:24And here's your bill." So, it's a similar situation where you don't really know what you're talking about, what you're doing in this situation. Apparently, you need some sort of fix because, you know, you come with one thing, you end up needing something else. Like, yeah, you knew that was broken, but by the way, you might as well go ahead and get this fixed and blah blah blah blah blah. It's kind of like the vaccine thing, right? Like, you don't have the virus, obviously, but you probably should go ahead and get the vaccine. And okay, trust the experts cuz I don't really know While also knowing and accepting the fact that they are financially incentivized to get more out of you, whether it's, you know, fix more things on your car or give more vaccines to you or put you under more surgeries.

37:19Like there's there's so much faith and trust that you got to put into the people that are quote unquote experts. And how many people they become experts in the field and they get to a certain point and they just kind of check out. They don't continue to ask questions. They are so used to feeling like the source of answers that they forget to ask questions themselves. Obviously, it's not all experts in different industries like you know we already talked about. It's something that happens though where eventually your expertise isn't as good as you think it is just because you kind of just gone with the narrative. You've gone with okay what am I supposed to do?

38:15This is what it is. All right. But why is this? What do we do? What is the reason for this? If I asked my daughter's pediatrician when she goes to get her checkup, hey, you want to do this vaccine? What's the reason why why we do this? Oh, well, it stops this and this and that. What what's the if I start asking the the the questions like, well, how many people actually get whatever, you know, fill in the blank? What is what are some of the side effects? What are some of the ingredients that are that are in this? That's when you know what I mean? Like what what if you're one of those people that you don't even you don't even care to be bothered to know that type of stuff. You know what the status quo is. You know what you're supposed to prescribe. What if when I go to ask it's one of those like ah um you you know it's it's for it's for this.

39:20I don't know the ingredients off the top of my head. Obviously I'm not expecting them to to do that. I don't know. I I feel like I'm rambling on this again just because I'm feeling uneasy. And why am I feeling uneasy? because I'm thinking about how much I have to trust so many different people. Like I've openly talked about that with the the mechanic where it's just like damn like I just got to trust that what you're saying is right. And then even when you go to fix that I don't even know if it's really fixed, bro. I don't even know if you actually fix that Like if something is leaking and you say you go to fix it and then later something else is leaking, it's like, "Oh, well, you already drove it off the lot. You know, you already did something to it." It's like, bro, it just seems like a whole racket. Well, now we got to fix this. I don't know what to tell you. When it rain, it pours. You know what I'm saying? You're just going to have to get something else. You can go somewhere else, but they'll probably charge you just the same.

40:17Well, man. Cuz now now I just don't trust you. Now I'm wondering if you loosen something up while you were under there. Like he'll never know. And then bam, I got a new leak. Yeah. I just feel uneasy when I start thinking about about this And yeah, I guess I have thought about the next time that my kid goes to get some sort of shot. I have thought about the conversation that I'll have with their pediatricians. And it makes me nervous, man. It makes me nervous because I can't I can't just have that blind faith that so many people have. But I still feel like I'm walking a line where don't don't be too aggressive, you know?

41:16And I'm not saying obviously I'm not like an aggressive person with like that. I'm just saying it's one of those you're on eggshells. Be careful. And that's probably just like a fallacy in my own brain, man. Don't want to be a science denier. Hey, fragment.

41:34Okay. See? All right. At least at least some of these answers that I was talking about. That's what I was Okay. So, there are if you do ask, there are reasonings behind it. It's kind of like what I was saying where like it helps to help facilitate whatever, you know, scientific thing that's going on. I guess my next question would be as soon as you tell me what the purpose and reasoning of of putting these crazy things in um like the the one for lethal injection the third the third shot the third round for lethal injection whatever the even if it is a small amount it's like you know what I mean imagine that with anything else like uh like Drano or some like that you know like oh Well, I only injected a little bit of Drano into my bloodstream. It's like, you did what? It's like it was just a little bit, like not a lot.

42:32It was like a very tad bit. It's like like you need to go to a hospital. Like, are you okay? Like, you know what I mean? It would be crazy. Um, obviously people aren't just like dropping dead like flies when they're taking these, are they? So, my first question would be, what's the reasoning? They would give me the reasoning and be like, okay, sounds good. Again, like you said, not a scientist, but what are the side effects of having this in there? Because everything obviously is going to be a trade-off. Hey, it does this, but this happens. And then we put this other thing in and it counteracts what happens there. Um, you know what I mean? So, if your reasoning for having something, it's like, hey, it counteracts what this other thing that we put in and it actually served the ultimate goal that we really needed for this vaccine. I don't know. So you get what every everything does the reasoning for all of it. What are the the reactions to all of this?

43:29What side effects do you get? And then after that my final question be is there anything that could serve the same purpose without this without the same And

43:45See that's that's where it starts to it gets me sad. I start to lose a little bit of faith when I hear like that because the way my brain kind of worked through what he just said is that given that same question that I had, which is is there any way you can replace it? You know, you have these crazy things in the vaccine. Hey, it worked. Cool. You came up with this concoction. you know, is this like the the the least valuable, you know, u product or whatever it's called? Like the this is the it works. Get it off the line. We can go ahead and start selling it, but you can improve upon it. So now just like the prototype, the beta version, I don't I don't have faith with stuff like this because the very thing that we do to try and help can also hurt and it kind of makes you feel like you're running in a whole bunch of different ways and it's a dead end no matter which way you go.

45:08So even if they find another ingredient that works better, doesn't have the same side effects, look at their incentives. Well, then we'd have to go through the process of getting approved by the FDA and it'll cost millions of dollars or whatever. It would have us, you know, we stop making money for now and what whatever the case is where their incentives are. Let's continue to let the money flow. We don't want the money to stop flowing. And it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to go out there, research for better ways to create have our vaccines where some of the side effects that are on here or some of the weird ingredients that are inside of them. We we aren't able to find a better way to do that or we're not incentivized to do that because it's going to cost money and time while we're making money and we can move on to the next one.

46:16So, it it almost would feel like backtracking to them. Again, just like uh who gives a what what people think or what's being put into people. This is definitely from a very I'm not saying I don't want to say evil like villainous or anything like that, but just a nonchalant like like it is what it is. It's a cold world type It's just business type Um, yeah. I just I think there there has to be some way to put the incentives in these companies that create vaccines like incentivize them to continue to improve upon it. like have some sort of score where you know how effective is it compared to the side effects?

47:17Like how many times where you hear some random like pharmaceutical advertisement like where it's like a joke or some where it's like wow get this pill and now you're never depressed or now your liver is better than before whatever it helps. And then it was like common side effects will be suicidal ideiations and death and your liver will completely explode or so it'll be some crazy like your blood will catch on fire and you will vomit lava. I don't know. Like it'll it'll be the wildest side effects where it's just like bro I I would be better off just having the thing that you were trying to fix. You know what I mean? like uh and and then the worst part is when it'll be like some cosmetic like it it's to just like help you help you feel better like help your hair grow back or some like that. It's like by the way you know you might feel depressed and you might have seizures and there and then what kills me is at the end there's a lot of times more side effects may may exist or some like these are just some of the side effects.

48:28It'll say some crazy thing and you can only barely hear it because they just speedun through that knowing damn well how crazy it sounds to be like, "Hey, we'll uh we'll stop you from choking while eating your dinner, but then we're going to go through your house and soak everything with gasoline. to step outside of your house and light a match and throw it at your house. But the good news is while you burn alive, you will not be choking. Also, there might be some smoke inhilation um and other side effects may exist. Um sorry, but you're welcome. New Plexa. I don't know if that's that actually might be a medicine.

49:26That sounds like a medicine, right? Like don't try to sue me or some Oh man, I don't even know how you keep a straight face while doing those advertisements. I would be reading that as the voiceover actor be like, "God damn, I'm working for the devil." play. Oh my god, bro. That was wild. Anthony Fouchy or whatever got pardoned, man. That That's a whole another video. Yeah, you got to we got to we got to bring the culture back that not only accepts but champions the people that ask questions, which should be all of us.

50:25That's honestly when I feel like people will have more trust in society and each other again is when we all start to question things. When people are so susceptible to group think and are just sheeps that follow along with whatever narrative is spilled out to them, that's when it starts to well, it gets a little bit hard. It gets a little bit hard to trust anybody to genuinely mean the they say, to stand by any of the things that they do because you're just you're a performative version of what a human is supposed to be. And it it's not something that any of us can really escape. It it can happen to anybody.

51:22And that's where I was saying like even even with stuff like this where I I actually I'm already leaning on the edge of my seat. I'm already feeling the type of feelings that you're you're doing nothing but exaggerating, creating a bigger version of, you know, it's easy to just fall in line like I already said to just accept everything blindly as as a fact. And that's why I appreciate for for Rogan for even uh pushing back where he said but people have died from the measles, right? Because if it would have just started with that first thing like I think the direction of the rest of what he said it it just started it it went it went a different direction than it would have.

52:23I'll just put it that way. Um, but I mean obviously that's probably why number one podcast uh on Spotify or whatever, but yeah, man. Asking asking questions, it not only doesn't get championed, not only does it get accepted, it gets ridiculed, it gets attacked and villainized. And if you start doing it too much, you start leaning into the conspira like conspiracy theory type of territory starting to sound like a a nut job, like a wacko. And you need to back the up. Get in line. Better start batting and like that. You cheap. Like you better you better get with the group. Think like us or you can get left behind.

53:23And so many of us, we watched it happen during the pandemic. We watched it happen. I had people in my family reaching out to me, you need to get vaccinated. You need to you need to get the vaccine. Think of your children. I was getting text messages from people in my family saying, "Think about your children." like I was like putting them at risk and it turns out it was it was It was kind of like what we were saying before uh with with Buddy with the measel They started out saying one thing about the vaccine and they ended up leading with a completely different story.

54:21First, it prevents you getting it. And then next, it it just uh you know, it makes it where it's not as effective. It doesn't it doesn't keep you in the hospital as bad or whatever the whatever the words were that they use where it's like you start switching it up. That's where it's just like why why why why are you doing this? Why? Like we should be doing this together. We should all That's what I'm saying. Where is the trust in society? where how are we supposed to trust our are the people that are governing us? You know what I mean? Like if everybody is just incentivized to just look out for themselves, like how how are we supposed to? And it's so easy to just put your head down and be like, "Yeah, it. Just whatever I'm supposed to supposed to believe, like I'll go with that. But I mean, I question the that's going to be injected into my kids.

55:24I question which vaccines are actually needed. You know, are there ingredients in there that will lead to long-term side effects that I could have avoided? I could have avoided for something that they only had one out of 150 million chances of getting, but what they have now, they had a one out of a thousand chances of getting. The odds were severely stacked against them by taking this. And obviously, I'm just saying this and that because I don't know the specifics. It's just another case of my damn car being messed up. What do I got? I gotta be an expert in everything, right? Got to learn how to fix the flim flams and the shingamadings in the car.

56:22And then I got to go see how the human body works so I don't just get injected with crazy ass It seems a little bit too much. I think that's good, right?